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- Path: FreeNet.Carleton.CA!an171
- From: an171@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Anthony Hill)
- Subject: Re: Astounding high CPS rate!
- Message-ID: <DL6ryC.DrA@freenet.carleton.ca>
- Sender: an171@freenet5.carleton.ca (Anthony Hill)
- Reply-To: an171@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Anthony Hill)
- Organization: The National Capital FreeNet
- References: <4cvsii$h0@horus.infinet.com> <4db4ra$56@hg.oro.net>
- Date: Sun, 14 Jan 1996 19:39:48 GMT
-
-
- Ed Starry (estarry@oro.net) writes:
- > For properly configured modems compression of <*.zip> files is no big deal.
- > Actually, zip file transfers of only 2,100 cps is slow for a 14.4!
- >
- > Most, if not all, BBS's & ISP's 'Do Not' have compression enabled. It takes
-
-
- I don't know what BBSes and ISPs you call, but all of the ones
- that I call have compresion enabled.
-
- > *TWO* properly configured modems and with a BBS on one end you will never
- > see true high speed compression. Not knowing exactly what your set-up is
- > there's a high probability you've inadvertently stumbled onto what most
- > people believe to be impossible, 'Zip files ARE compressible!' If you have
-
- This is not entirely true. The only ZIP files that are
- compressible are those set to "store" and not to compress. Of course
- merely storing files in a .ZIP archive isn't particularly useful, and
- virtually no one does it, especialy not if they're planning on transfering
- the files over a modem connection. The .ZIP compression is much more
- effective then the v.42bis compression used in your modem.
-
- > 16550 UART's and are able to set the TxFIFOBuffer to 16 give it a try, now
- > send to yourself on the other PC. Depending on your modems capabilities and
- > their configuration you could see rates of 5,000 cps, or higher, for <*.zip>
- > files!
-
- Been there, done that, doesn't work that way.
-
- > Incidentally, internal modems are 'usually' better at compression than
- > externals. Not because of the 16550 but because internal modems buffer the
- > UART via 'Additional RAM'. An external modem has 'Zero RAM' unless using a
- > Hayes ESP card. LAPM modems are better than MNP, higher compression ratios.
-
- Sorry to be blunt, but this is just plain wrong. Internal modems
- and external modems are IDENTICLE! The only difference is that the
- interal modem is stuck right on the serial port card, while the external
- modem is connected to the serial port card through a cable. Both internal
- and external modems have RAM inside of them for error control and data
- compression. If you don't believe me, TRY IT.. I have. FWIW, the buffer
- in the Hayes ESP card has absolutely nothing to do with compression. Data
- compression occurs INSIDE the modem, the ESP card only deals with
- uncompressed data either going to the modem or coming from it. It
- prevents com overruns because it has a 1k buffer as opposed to the 16 byte
- buffer of a 16550 UART, and it allows for DTE rates of > 115.2kbps, but
- aside from that it's useless. And since DTE rates of > 115.2 aren't
- particularly useful for even 33.6 modems (it'll help a little bit of boths
- ends are using it, but there are many other things that are more
- important), and I don't get any overruns at 115.2kbps with my 16550, the
- Hayes ESP card would be completely useless for me. Oh, BTW, here's some
- states for a connection between two external modems:
-
-
- ati6
-
- USRobotics Sportster 33600 Fax Link Diagnostics...
-
- Chars sent 4623 Chars Received 262606
- Chars lost 0
- Octets sent 8573 Octets Received 136006
- Blocks sent 4077 Blocks Received 11841
- Blocks resent 0
-
- Retrains Requested 0 Retrains Granted 0
- Line Reversals 0 Blers 0
- Link Timeouts 0 Link Naks 0
-
- Data Compression V42BIS 2048/32
- Equalization Long
- Fallback Disabled
- Protocol LAPM
- Speed 14400
- Current Call 00:49:57
-
- Online
-
- OK
- <end quote>
-
- Now, if you look at that Data Comrpession line, you'll notice the
- number 2048. This is the size of the v.42bis dictionary, in byte.
- Basically this means that both external modems have 2k of RAM for data
- compression.
-
- Anthony
-
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- Anthony Hill | an171@FreeNet.Carleton.CA
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